Monday, March 8, 2010

blog post for monday

Every year in the Roman age there were festivals and parties. These festivals consisted of games and dancing. Now one of the so called game they played was the Gladiatorial show. This was to honor, “when a king or war leader died, as part of the funeral ceremony a pair of warriors fought to the death as a way to honor the warlike spirit of the leader”.(daily life in Roman history line 345 p 2). These shows mostly had men sometimes they consisted of woman. Before the could participate in these shows they had to go to Gladiator school to get trained. One of the most famous Roman person that was in the show was Augustus, he won 7 times. This show only got sponsored 2 times by the senate. “Gladiatorial combats have a very ancient history in Roman society”.( daily life in Roman history, sentence line 1, p 2).

Sunday, March 7, 2010

Daily Life In The Roman City

Daily Life In The Roman City


This article speaks of what slavery in ancient Roman times was like.  It explains that slavery was not based on race, but rather on prisoners of war.  Slavery was also a “permanent boundary,” and sometimes slaves were freed, and sometimes people became slaves.   Generally, people became slaves because of “military conquest.”  There was even a market located outside of Rhodes that had thousands of slaves going through it every day.  Slave trade dramatically increased after the Third Punic War, and after Caesar’s campaigns in Gaul.  People possessed the ability to sell themselves into slavery, and sell members of their family into slavery.  Children of slaves, and abandoned children also generally were sold into slavery.  Better skilled slaves were sold for more money, and less skilled for less.  Slaves were considered property, and by running away from their masters, they were committing theft.  There were two types of slaves, the rural slaves, and the urban slaves.  The rural slaves were the less valuable, ones, who usually worked on farms.  Their life was extremely harsh, and they were highly abused.  The urban slaves had much better lives.  They usually worked in the house of their owner, had families, and were friends of their owners.  These types of slaves sometimes earned a peculium.  A peculium was an amount of money which slaves built up, and once they had enough money, they could buy their freedom from their master.  The slaves generally inherited about a five percent profit from their master’s sales.  It usually took them about seven years to build up a peculium.  Many of these slaves experienced manumission, (being freed by their masters).

Since their was such a large number of slaves in the Roman empire, the Romans were often fearful that a slave rebellion was eminent.  There are examples of this in Roman history where slaves were severely punished for small errors.  Through the Roman Republic, the slaves rebelled a few times.  The most well-known rebellion was that led by Spartacus.  Spartacus had been the Thracian who had served in the Roman army.  After becoming a slave, he was sent to become a gladiator.  He had gathered together a band of about 90000 rebels, and defeated a total of three Roman armies.  He and his army had reached the alps on their way to Italy, and Spartacus had suggested to his followers to escape to their homes.  His followers refused, and they continued on their journey to Italy.  He and most of his followers were killed soon after in a battle, and crucified (as a warning of the results of revolt).  Through the following years, slaves started to become treated with more respect, and less torture.

Spartacus


BoldHistorical Background For Spartacus
By: Barbra F. McManus
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Daily Life in the Roman City
By: Gregory S. Aldrete

In 73 B.C., a massive breakout occurred from a gladiator school located in Capua. Somewhere near to 70 gladiators escaped from this prison school while slaughtering all Roman soldiers inside. By the end of the year 73 B.C., what had originally been planned as a massive slave escape plan had turned into a full-scale war against The Roman Republic. This entire revolt was orchestrated by one man, Spartacus. Spartacus was a free Thracian man who was sold into slavery after he deserted the Roman Legion. After pillaging the Roman countryside for almost a year, Spartacus had an army of gladiators, barbarians, and regular slaves reaching 70,000. When Rome responded with an army, Spartacus was able to defeat the legions of Rome in several key battles before reaching the Alps. However, Instead of escaping Roman grasp by crossing the Alps, Spartacus continued plundering at his army's request.

In 72 B.C., Rome responded again by sending two more armies led by Gellius Publicola and Cornelius Lentulus Clodianus. Spartacus was able to defeat these two armies although one of his old barbarian armies who initially told Spartacus to keep plundering was defeated. Rome, disgusted by the defeat of their legions elected Marcus Licinius Crassus to lead six new legions to destroy Spartacus at all costs. Eventually, Spartacus was cornered at the heal of Italy by Crassus's armies. In order to escape this threat, Spartacus organized a deal with pirates in order to escape. However, Spartacus couldn't trust the pirates because they abandoned him. In 71 B.C., Spartacus and his army met with Crassus and his in a major battle in which Spartacus lost and apparently was killed in. The rest of the army was crucified on the Appian Way. Later on, the rest of Spartacus's army was captured by Pompey who took all the credit was the ending of the rebellion. Even today, this still remains one of the greatest revolts of all time.

Thursday, February 11, 2010

Ovid

Wasnaa Adnan

Dave Whitson

Humanities 9R

Ovid he was very sad about Toussain because he was talking about him and how he looks when he died ,his torch is quenched look how he goes,they are very sad about Toussain and the gods son died Ovid friend (Tibullus) died their depression it was the same, towards the end because the son is in the underworld when the mother dies she will see him again making her pain now weaken.

Ovid's Elegy for Tibullus analysis

Michelle Satterfield

2/11/10


Out of the three Elegy types, Ovid’s Elegy for Tibullus was a poem which went from a sad beginning, to a miserable end.  Through the elegy, Ovid progressively makes the poem more tragic.  Ovid relates the grief he feels of Tibullus’ death to that of the Gods.  “No less was Venus stunned by her Tibullus’ death,” (15) with this statement, Ovid is trying to say that Venus was just as sad when her own son Aeneus died, as the town is that their great poet, Tibullus dies.  The last lines of the poem truly reveal why it is that the poem’s layout went from sad to tragic.  “Here as you fled life, your mother closed your streaming eyes, and brought her last gifts to your ashes.  Here your sister joined your mother in her grief.” (49) There is no closure in this reference whatsoever.  Ovid is saying that after a man dies, Tibullus in this case, their mother is left to close their crying eyes, and to grieve over their dead body.  Ovid flat-out says that Tibullus’ sister, and mother were grieving, and when closure is reached, this is usually not the case.

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While reading the elegy of Ovid i came across that the reading was the 3rd elegy, grief to more grief. Some examples of my conclusion of the reading are, In the beginning he starts out saying, " If Memmons mother, Achilles mother mourned and our sad fates can touch great goddesses"."2" " No less was Venus stunned by her Tibullus death, than when the fierce boar smote her lovers thigh."37" " Respect the gods. Grim death will drag you from their altars to your grave". 40" May your bones find repose within their sheltering urn, and may earth lie heavy on you ashes".67 These are my examples through the excerpt and even reading more and more I think it is grief to more grief.

Elegy For Tibullus

In my opinion, this elegy falls under the category of grief to consolation. In my opinion this discusses the grief of the gods to the grief of mortals. "This could also relate to exaggerations as if the gods were saddened by the death of Tibullus or any other mortal," (D Whit). I believe the bulk of this elegy goes into great detail about the woe. However, it seems as if the elegy ends with consolation because the last four lines read as so, "These shades will be your comrades, if any shades there are: you have joined the blessed, elegant Tibullus. May your bones find repose within their sheltering urn, and may earth not lie heavy on your ashes," (Ovid 65-68).

Wednesday, February 10, 2010

The Height of Rome On the Quirinal hill, was one of the big turning point in Rome, on the Quirinal hill. Some effects happened. In 446 BC a temple was built on the Quirinal hill, “that was dedicated to a ruler that was very powerful and loyal named Sancus.” “Wikipedia” In 307 BC another temple was built, “ dedicated to Esculapius, the daughter of Sancus.” “ Wikipedia”. During that time tombs had been discovered all around the 7 hills including Quirinal hill. “Quirinus was found in the hill and then was formed into a temple, after his wonderful battles of Samnite.

Tuesday, February 9, 2010

Caelian Hill - today

Michelle Satterfield

The Caelian Hill, also called the Monte Celio, has two levels, with arches through.  It remains in tact, and overall in good shape.  The top level is much smaller than the bottom.  The 1st level is in more of a square shape, and the 2nd is based on more circular shapes.  There is currently a church built on the Caelian Hill.  The church is called the SS Giovanni e Paolo, and makes the hill based on more religious purposes than it ever was before.  The inside of the San Giovanni is quite artistic, and spacious. The ceiling is lined with sculptures of christ, lions, and several religious identities.  There are several paintings of christ, and some Christian Saints.  The main color scheme is either brown or tan, with green splotches through.  There are several glass chandeliers on the walls of the church, in between the arches.  The building has tall ceilings, and is very wide.  Surrounding the Caelian Hill is the arch named “Porta Maggiore.”  It now goes over one of Rome’s traffic intersections, and is very well preserved.  On the outside of the walls of the arch is a “mysterious” tomb named “The Tomb of the Baker.”  Covering the tomb are sculpted ovens, and bakers instructions.

The Height of Rome On the Quirinal hill. Trojans column was done getting built 113 A.D close by the Quirinal hill. Domitian made the new altar on the Quirinal hill. After the war with the Trojans they engraved scenes of the war on the hill. A temple was honored to Esculapius the kings daughter on the Quirinal hill.

Monday, February 8, 2010

On the Quirinal hill. Trojans column was done getting built 113 A.D close by the Quirinal hill. Domitian established the new altar on the Quirinal hill. After the war with the Trojans they engraved scenes of the war on the hill.

Saturday, February 6, 2010

The Founding of the Palatine Hill

At the birth of the city of Rome, The Palatine Hill was famous because it was the hill where the two twins of legend, Romulus and Remus were nursed by the she-wolf. This also the same hill where supposedly, Romulus began to build the great city. Finally, it was said that Hercules defeated Cacus in a cave around this site. Archaeologists have also found, "Walled villages and tombs have been found here, and the people who lived in those villages seemed to be dominant to their contemporaries since the 700s BCE," (MusesRealm.net, Seven Hills). Evidence shows that the Palatine hill served as the heart of the entire city of Rome later on during the height of the empire. "It would later go on to be surrounded by famous Roman buildings such as The Forum, Circus Maximus, and the Colosseum," (Author unavailable, A View on Cities, Palatine Hill, Rome). Also, probably for its cultural significance, many houses were built on top of the hill as well as palaces for the rich.

Citations: 1. http://www.musesrealm.net/rome/sevenhills.html
2. http://www.aviewoncities.com/rome/palatinehill.htm

Thursday, February 4, 2010

Palatine Hill

At the birth of the Rome, the Palatine hill was famous for it was the place where Romulus and Remus were nursed by the she-wolf. It was also the place where Romulus began to build Rome and where Hercules and Cacus fought. At the height of the Roman Empire, the Palatine empire was famous for being the hill where the Colosseum, Circus Maximus, and the Forum were built. Many houses were also built on the Palatine Hill. This might have been for the richer citizens.
Continuation of question 1.
It also appears that Hercules is portrayed even more as a hero in Vergil's and Ovid's than in Livy's.

2. Vergil's account and Ovid's account are easier to compare because they go into greater detail about the actual occurence. Livy did not go into much more detail because he believed the actual battle was much more quick. Or perhaps, maybe he was trying to make a point that Hercules did not act heroically in this chapter of his legacy. Livy's story makes me think that Hercules killed Cacas in cold blood. In the other two, Hercules acted heroically by killing a monster, not a shepherd like Livy says.
Vergil comes across something that no other person, passage on king Evander, " No idle superstition, or ignorance of the ancient god, forced these solemn rites of ours this ritual banquet this altar to so great divinity upon us. The other two people never talk about it.
Vergil comes across another thing that Livey and ovid talk little detail about, " there was a cave here, receding vast depths untouched by the suns rays inhabited by the fell shape of cacus. Livey and ovid just say that he went into a cave they didn't go into detail about it.
Livy is the only one that goes into Romulus and Remus and he said, " Remus is said to have been the first to receive an omen: Six vultures appeared to him. The augury had just been announced to Romulus when double the number appeared to him."

2. Vergil comes across that Cacus went through the vast cave,

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Vergil comes across something that no other person, passage on king Evander, " No idle superstition, or ignorance of the ancient god, forced these solemn rites of ours this ritual banquet this altar to so great divinity upon us. The other two people never talk about it.
Vergil comes across another thing that Livey and ovid talk little detail about, " there was a cave here, receding vast depths untouched by the suns rays inhabited by the fell shape of cacus. Livey and ovid just say that he went into a cave they didn't go into detail about it.
Livy is the only one that goes into Romulus and Remus and he said, " Remus is said to have been the first to receive an omen: Six vultures appeared to him. The augury had just been announced to Romulus when double the number appeared to him."

for the first one it changes my idea in the story because Vergil is the only one that talks about King Evander and it seems the other ones dont care what he has to say about him. what King Evander

The Three Perspectives of Hercules and Cacus

1. One thing that I noticed about Livy's portrayal is that he was the only writer that mentioned Romulus and Remus in his story. I found that interesting. I also realized that Livy talks about the statue of Hercules and that then leads into the story and both Vergil's and Ovid's almost drop you into the story right away. In Livy's story, Cacus is also portrayed more as a shepherd than a monster. Livy's story is also a lot shorter and doesn't go in further detail. Another thing I noticed was in Livy's portrayal and Ovid's portrayal Cacus was killed by a swing or two from a club. However, in Virgil's account Hercules killed Cacus by choking him. In Livy's account it also seems as if Cacus was not such a monster and as I already stated he was a shepherd. I believe Vergil makes cacus look more like a monster when he talks about the blood-stained cave as well as severed human heads nailed to certain doors in the cave. In fact, gruesome detail is used in both Ovid's and Vergil's stories. Perhaps this is what made them more memorable and this is one of the tools the Greeks used for the process of oral tradition.

Monday, January 11, 2010

The years of change

1) In 399 B.C. Socrates was executed. This is really significant to Athens because Socrates was accused corrupting the youth, when in reality he was just making them question their beliefs. His students grew up to be very famous philosophers.

One of Socrates's students Plato was born in 427 B.C. The only reason we know how great Socrates was is through Plato's writing. In 398 he traveled to Egypt. He returned in 387 B.C. to found the academy where people came to learn.

In 378 B.C. Things begin to change in Athens greatly. Athens formed the second most successful Confederacy. Property tax is also introduced in Athens.

2) In 356 B.C. Alexander the Great was born. This is important because he created the greatest empire of the ancient world.

The battle between Sparta and Thebes took place in 371 B.C. This was a powerful battle because it ultimately led to the Spartans defeat.

By 338 B.C. Philip of Macedonia becomes the ruler of all Greek City States. This is important because it shows the rise of a backwater state.

3) Our group believes that Philip the second was one of the main reasons Macedonia rose to power. He instituted a more powerful and disciplined army, and more powerful weaponry. He also helped on the political front. Slowly, Macedonia was becoming more and more powerful. Then, Alexander the Great came into power after Philip was assassinated. While Alexander was conquering, Macedonia was the most powerful state in the world. This was known as the golden age of Macedon. This did not last long however because when Alexander died the power was divided. The fractions of the empire slowly wasted away.

Bibliography-

http://www.heritage-history.com/www/heritage.php?R_menu=OFF&Dir=characters&FileName=plato.php --This site is very reliable because they take the information from books made by established history authors.

http://www.worldhistory.timemaps.com/ancient-greece/fourth_century.htm -- This site is part of the curriculum online which makes me trust it.

http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/aegean/timeline.html -- I trusted it because it listed only key dates.
http://wso.williams.edu/~junterek/philip.htm
About.com, I trust it for minor info because it has been right before
I trust it for minor info because I have used it before.

Arron and Sarah

Friday, January 8, 2010

1. The Blind Prophet- Line 359 "Although you can't see- you know how sick our states is."
The Blindness of the Prophet himself is a foreshadow of it's self. Later on in the story Oedipus becomes blind by stabbing his own eyes.

2. Line 444- "I say you are the very man your looking for."
Teiresias is simply stating that the man who killed the king was himself. While Oedipus was off trying to find the murderer he was to look at himself.

3. Line 339- "I say that with your dearest family, unknown to you, you are living in disgrace. You have no idea how bad things are."
This could mean many things but I think that Teiresias is just saying that he does not know who his family his, but he also does, and does not know what is going to happen. I think the prophet was predicting the suicide of Jocasta and the blinding of Oedipus.

Thursday, January 7, 2010

Oedipus should not be guilty for killing his father. He did not know that Laius was king over the land he was headed to and in fact was defending himself. After being assaulted any man has the right to defend him self. Laius maybe thought he was defending himself because this 'stranger' came across him in his path, therefore feeling threatened. Being outsider and not feeling a connection to Laius and only Oedipus I feel that I am not being far to Laius. So I thought what it would feel like to me if Laius was introduced in the play. I would be able to see how he ruled the people, and what type of ruler he was. If he was given the chance to make a connection with me I would feel that Oedipus is guilty*, but he wasn't so therefore I feel that Oedipus is not guilty and he was defending himself.


* It may seem as though I am contradicting my self by saying that Oedipus is guilty if I knew Laius and he is not if I don't. I am only trying to make a point inside of my point that nobody can be completely bias because it is human instinct to go with something you are familiar to or are able to relate to. And since I am able to relate more with Oedipus I tend to favor him. (I am sorry for making my answer so difficult, but it is the truth).
Part 2:
This one is for Old Yeller

1. (Creon arrives and tells Oedipus that Laius was murdered. Oedipus responds by asking many questions about who they were. Creon responds to this). "Here in Thebes, so said the god. What is sought is found, but what is overlooked escapes". The people would have never thought that their savior killed the king. That is why the god told Creon whatever happens to be pushed aside or overlooked escapes.
2. During the conversation between Teiresias and Oedipus,"He will be blind, although he now can see. He will be a poor, although he now is rich. He will set off for a foreign country". the blind prophet also says the killer is a native Theban. He will not be happy to hear of that though. This is the best example of foreshadowing in this play. Teiresias is predicting everything in this play.

Part 2

Part 2:
This one is for Old Yeller

1. (Creon arrives and tells Oedipus that Laius was murdered. Oedipus responds by asking many questions about who they were. Creon responds to this). "Here in Thebes, so said the god. What is sought is found, but what is overlooked escapes". The people would have never thought that their savior killed the king. That is why the god told Creon whatever happens to be pushed aside or overlooked escapes.
2. During the conversation between Teiresias and Oedipus,"He will be blind, although he now can see. He will be a poor, although he now is rich. He will set off for a foreign country". the blind prophet also says the killer is a native Theban. He will not be happy to hear of that though. This is the best example of foreshadowing in this play. Teiresias is predicting everything in this play.

Oedipus the King (again)

Part 1 (prompt # 2):

A huge theme in this tragedy, as previously stated in the prompt was that it shows that you can never escape your fate. You can never win against the gods either. Whether or not you could escape your fate, the playwright as well as a most of the Greek people believed you couldn't. They made sure you were reminded of that constantly. The gods must be respected but also feared. This is one of the key if not main social norm that was violated in this tragedy. Another social norm that was violated was to respect your mother and father. However, I believe this is not a fair charge on Oedipus because he did not have full knowledge that one of the men he killed was his father and also the king. Oedipus thought he was escaping his fate when he was just walking into it. So far, the tragedy of Oedipus is already promoting absolute respect to the gods. The play also promotes respect for your parents. Also, absolute respect for the gods also ties in with fate. Can you escape your fate? The Greeks didn't believe you could. In fact, the Greeks believed you only made it worse for either yourself or your family by trying to escape your fate. I believe this makes Oedipus innocent because he tried to escape the path already set out for him by the gods. Another moral lesson than can be learned from this play would be to not become to arrogant. This is one thing Oedipus could be accused of. There were several quotes where it seemed Oedipus was over-confident in his ability. Out of the things Oedipus promotes, these are some of the most important teachings.
Arron "the blaron" and "bloody red baron" and "the real deal" Long-Lewis

Wednesday, January 6, 2010

About five years back Pink Floyd was coming to US Airlines Arena. They were visiting three states, New York, California, and Arizona. Not touring in the US for over fifteen years, and this probably would be the last US tour. Pink Floyd being my favorite band I was psyched, I was planning out the set list that I wanted to do, and who their guess star was going to be. A few months before the tour keyboardist and vocalist Rick Wright died of a Heart attack (maybe from the high doses of acid and heroine through out the years). Him being one of my favorite artist I was so sad. I felt as if a part of me died with me. I know this is a little dramatic for me being only 8 years old but I listened to Pink Floyd my whole life. Then on top of it Pink Floyd no longer tour. Therefore splitting up the band for good. I now was never able to see my all time favorite band tour, scaring my for life!

Anagnorisis

There have been several occurrences of anagnorisis in my life. Thankfully not as awful and dramatic as Oedipus had. In fact, most of them were very minor. One example that I can think of would be when I was in eighth grade. I was sent up to Algebra to see how I would do in a different class and determine if I was ready to learn in a high school class. I went up with several other former eighth graders such as Sarah and Sam. The class didn't seem to difficult at first. All we did for the first quarter was homework, projects, and one test. So, it was almost the end of the first quarter, and I had an A+ in Algebra. Surprisingly, we had not had a test yet, but we had covered several chapters. Eventually, Ms.Haakstad gave us a cumulative first quarter test. When I heard about this test I made sure and studied as much as I could in preparation for it. I was a little bit nervous about taking the test for I felt I didn't deserve to be in that class in the first place. The test was handed out at the beginning of class on a Friday if I remember correctly. It was a long test so I didn't exactly finish in the short time period given on Fridays. However, I finished as the lunch period was starting. As I handed in this test I felt really good about it. I was one hundred percent positive that I was going to get an A on it. Now, you can understand how I felt when the test was handed back to me and I received a D. How did I get a D! I said this to myself many times as I looked over the paper again and again. I saw the same thing that Ms.Haakstad saw. I knew the material very well. I knew how to solve the problems. I just made dumb mistakes on most of them. I believe that I was rushing through it too quickly and not being careful enough. I was able to take a retake, this time I was sure I was going to get an A (this new grade would take over the old one if a got a higher percent of them correct). Guess what? I received the same grade as before. I was shocked! I had never received such a bad grade on a test before. I had especially never received a bad grade a math test before. Luckily, I was able to rebound from those two tests and get much better grades. This is one of the best examples of anagnorisis in my life so far.

Arron Long-Lewis
Hunter,
Overall, good job on this post. There are some interesting things in this post.
Hunter,
I believe your first quote has something going for it. You had some very good observations. You are right, Oedipus seemed very enraged by what Teiresias was saying to him.
With the second quote you continue on the argument between these two characters. In this quote Teiresias claims that Oedipus is the true polluter of the land. Again, very good observations by saying there will be a revolution later. Your last quote is the most interesting for me because I never thought of looking at this quote in that certain way. Everything must die except the people who happen to escape.
1. Incense: A material or substance that can be burned and make a pleasant odor.

2. Suppliant: To be supplicating, to ask for something very humbly. To make the request by prayer.

3. Enigmatic: Something that is unclear like a riddle/puzzle

Tuesday, January 5, 2010

wu tang clan,
I loved your examples of foreshadowing. I think we were seeing the same things in them. Very Good examples. Although next time write down what you see in them so it would be easy to compare.
wu tang clan,
I though you had great examples of forshadowing. I can kind of see what I think you are seeing. Very cool. I don't know but did we have to explain what we saw in it into our blog. I di djust to be safe. Great Examples.
Hunter Prininski
1. Line 435: "I say that you yourself are the very man your looking for."
I think that the blind prophet is saying that Oedipus is looking for something, and that something is going to be given to him by himself. What I think it is, is since the prophet is blind he is going to become blind or unable to see something that he must (I am referring to not seeing as not being able to comprehend or acknowledge.) Him becoming blind would probably be put on him by himself. Since the prophet says that "he is the man he is looking for" I think that he is going to think that it is for his own interest.

Line 421: "For the accused polluter of this land is you."
Teiresias is telling Oedipus that he is the cause of all bad in the land. Later on though, a revolution will happen, all against Oedipus because the citizens felt that he was the cause of all troubles.

Line 139: "They all died- except the one who was afraid and ran away>"
Creon was saying that during a revolution that is going to happen everything would die, or dramatically be changed, except the ones that flee the land in time.

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Oedipus the King

2. It is obvious in this speech that Oedipus believes in reward and follows more closely to Charlemagne's approach to justice. I believe this because he says he will give the man thanks and a reward if he knows and speaks out against the killer. It seems at this point in the play he is very forgiving because he grants the killer to be only exiled from the land and no other punishment. However if the killer is silent along with his companions and is later found out, he will be punished severely.
Looking back at fate, the Greeks believed very strongly that life was like a play. Each person had their own role to play and they each had a fate. The Greeks believed you couldn't change your fate no matter how hard you tried to. You played your part and the end was already decided for you. When talking about faith and justice, at least some of them believed justice and faith went hand and hand. Your fate was your justice in the end.

Oedipus the King

1. line 72: "But when I count the days-the time he's been away-I now worry what he's doing. For he's been gone too long......". I believe this is still considered foreshadowing even though it turns out Creon is well. These lines still lead us to Creon's possible death.

line 41: "and freed us from the tribute we were paying to that cruel singer-and yet you knew no more than we did and had not been taught". I believe this shows that the this priest once believed Oedipus was a higher being but he knows no more that a mortal. The priest shows in this quote that Oedipus will meet a similar fate to the citizens

line 163: "you will see how I work with you, seeking vengeance for this land,.... This polluting stain I will remove". In this quote it is clear in the near future Oedipus will try to track down the killers.